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Do Sikhs believe in heaven and hell?
RavalBath Ji, I have not only taken and studied the verses you quoted but many more. See the Note 11 in book at link given. The answers lie therein. In your quoted second verse, Kabir says clearly that I HAVE BEEN SPARED FROM HEAVEN AND HELL ... He believes there is HEAVEN and HELL and that he has bRead more
RavalBath Ji,
I have not only taken and studied the verses you quoted but many more. See the Note 11 in book at link given. The answers lie therein.
In your quoted second verse, Kabir says clearly that I HAVE BEEN SPARED FROM HEAVEN AND HELL … He believes there is HEAVEN and HELL and that he has been spared from HEAVEN and HELL. By your own quoted verse, you are supporting the existence of HEAVEN and HELL.
The firsrt verse: The Saints has done the right things that HEAVEN and HELL has been rid for them, meaning they don’t have to go to HEAVEN and HELL. And if you read and understand the next verse it tells how the Saints are rid of HEAVEN and HELL … how? …. the Grace of Guru. Where did Kabir says there is no HEAVEN and HELL? Further this first verse you quoted is supported by the second verse.
This besides the point can you respond to my question that I posed to Kandola Sahib. I repeat
There is so much mention of heaven and hell in Gurbani. For example Guru Arjan says ਬਿਅਆਪਤ ਸੁਰਗ ਨਰਕ ਅਵਤਾਰ SGGS 182. Is he cheating us?
Looking forward to you response.
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Kulvinder Ji, Please read Appendix 4 of the book. I hope you find the rest of the book beneficial. Guru Nanak’s Guru (teacher) is God. He received the Word of God (Shabad/Bani) directly from God and he told this to us (see Appendix 4). We, on the other hand, are getting the word of God from our GuruRead more
Kulvinder Ji,
Please read Appendix 4 of the book. I hope you find the rest of the book beneficial.
Guru Nanak’s Guru (teacher) is God. He received the Word of God (Shabad/Bani) directly from God and he told this to us (see Appendix 4). We, on the other hand, are getting the word of God from our Guru (so our Guru is our teacher).
Guru Arjan Sahib put Aad Granth at a higher pedestal because it contained Gurbani the word/message of God. He did not proclaim Aad Granth, as Guru … he absolutely did not.
Aad Granth was up to Guru Gobind Singh, who included Bani of Guru Teg Bahadur plus one verse from himself and then proclaimed the Aad Granth + his added Banis as the Guru Granth Sahib, and as our eternal living Guru, before he left for the heavenly abode. There are many people who call the Guru Granth Sahib as Aad Granth or Adi Grath, which is strictly not correct.
Appendix 4 discusses this is detail.
The download link is
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Is the name of God in Sikhism “Ek Onkar” or “Waheguru”?
Kulvinder Ji, Gurbani says Akaal Purakh, God (Ek Oangkar/Waheguru) is limitless and formless. Then how can Akaal Purakh be the embodiment of Shabad Guru and Shabad Guru is the embodiment of Akaal Purakh? Gurbani is the word/message of God Akaal Purakh (Guru Nanak said "Jaisee May Away Khasam Ki BaniRead more
Kulvinder Ji,
Gurbani says Akaal Purakh, God (Ek Oangkar/Waheguru) is limitless and formless. Then how can Akaal Purakh be the embodiment of Shabad Guru and Shabad Guru is the embodiment of Akaal Purakh?
Gurbani is the word/message of God Akaal Purakh (Guru Nanak said “Jaisee May Away Khasam Ki Bani ….”) and Guru Granth Sahib which contains Gurbani, the word/message of God is the embodiment of Guru, which Guru Gobind ordained us the take as our living Guru (Sabh Sikhan Ko Hukam Hai, Guru Maneo Granth. Guru Granth Maneo Pargat Guran Ki Deh).
Please read Appendix 4 in the book shared in another post.
See lessIs the name of God in Sikhism “Ek Onkar” or “Waheguru”?
Michelle Mone Ji, When we say name, by and large we mean a qualitative attribute of description of God. This in Gurbani is called "Kirtam Naam". See page 41 of the book given at the link. Kindly read this book and hope you have a good understanding of Ek Oangkar. I would say Mool Mantar is expositioRead more
Michelle Mone Ji,
See lessWhen we say name, by and large we mean a qualitative attribute of description of God. This in Gurbani is called “Kirtam Naam”. See page 41 of the book given at the link.
Kindly read this book and hope you have a good understanding of Ek Oangkar. I would say Mool Mantar is exposition of Ek Oangkar, Japji is an exposition of Mool Mantar, and the whole of Gurbani an exposition of Japji.
Please download and read the book at link. Many of your questions will be answered in this book:
https://1drv.ms/b/s!AgJ9TLoOiZkMgpdR2vTeMUW7sh07Bw?e=hKJ84L
Happy for any question and discussion on this book at the links given on page ii of the book.
Do Sikhs believe in heaven and hell?
I hope I am not blocked for asking hard questions.
I hope I am not blocked for asking hard questions.
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Aren't you comments contradictory. First you say that heaven and hell is made up stuff. Then you say heaven is here in the company of the saints. Is the company of the saints nade up stuff?
Aren’t you comments contradictory. First you say that heaven and hell is made up stuff. Then you say heaven is here in the company of the saints. Is the company of the saints nade up stuff?
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Are you implying that our Gurus cheated us? There is so much mention of heaven and hell in Gurbani. For example Guru Arjan says ਬਿਅਆਪਤ ਸੁਰਗ ਨਰਕ ਅਵਤਾਰ SGGS 182. Is he cheating us?
Are you implying that our Gurus cheated us?
See lessThere is so much mention of heaven and hell in Gurbani. For example Guru Arjan says ਬਿਅਆਪਤ ਸੁਰਗ ਨਰਕ ਅਵਤਾਰ SGGS 182. Is he cheating us?
In Sikhi it is taught God Created itself. How is this possible?
I assume you claim that Gurbani believes in the BIG BANG theory. I think this is wrong. Gurbani stated ਏਕ ਕਵਾਵੈ ਤੇ ਸਭਿ ਹੋਅਆ in 1500. BIG BANG was introduced around 1950s, 450 years later. The fact is that the BIG BANG substantiates what Gurbani stated 450 years ago. How can you claim that Gurbani beRead more
I assume you claim that Gurbani believes in the BIG BANG theory. I think this is wrong. Gurbani stated ਏਕ ਕਵਾਵੈ ਤੇ ਸਭਿ ਹੋਅਆ in 1500. BIG BANG was introduced around 1950s, 450 years later. The fact is that the BIG BANG substantiates what Gurbani stated 450 years ago. How can you claim that Gurbani believes in a mathematical explanation that did not exist?
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In Sikhi it is taught God Created itself. How is this possible?
Please download and read the book (at the LINK). You may find it may satisfy your desire of knowledge. You are welcome to ask questions on the book. See link on pages ii. Download LINK: https://1drv.ms/b/s!AgJ9TLoOiZkMgpdR2vTeMUW7sh07Bw?e=CuH19S
Please download and read the book (at the LINK). You may find it may satisfy your desire of knowledge. You are welcome to ask questions on the book. See link on pages ii.
Download LINK: https://1drv.ms/b/s!AgJ9TLoOiZkMgpdR2vTeMUW7sh07Bw?e=CuH19S
See lessIn Sikhi it is taught God Created itself. How is this possible?
Kandola Sahib. You say God is SHABAD, ENERGY. But Guru Nanak said "As the Word of the Forgiving Lord comes to me, so do I express it, O Lalo: SGGS SGGS 722 Tilang M:1)" meaning that SHABAD (Word of God - Khasam Ki Bani) came from God. God self-existed before the Shabad was created. So SHABAD is notRead more
Kandola Sahib.
You say God is SHABAD, ENERGY.
But Guru Nanak said “As the Word of the Forgiving Lord comes to me, so do I express it, O Lalo: SGGS SGGS 722 Tilang M:1)” meaning that SHABAD (Word of God – Khasam Ki Bani) came from God. God self-existed before the Shabad was created. So SHABAD is not God, but one can say Bani, the word of God, is the manifestation of God in the creation.
Secondly, ENERGY has units TIME … But God is timeless … so GOD cannot be ENERGY. ENERGY only exists in the creation not in the timeless realm where God existed before the creation. After creating the creation, God pervades the creation … this does not mean the creation is God.
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